Minute from the meeting

Stephen Robins, chairman of the British school
Robin Jones, chairman SCPS – GB & Ireland
Else Nygreen, General Secretary of SCANSECT
Kerstin Björk, chairman of the Swedish Perfusion Society
Pia Sprogøe, chairman of DANSECT and secretary of SCANSECT

Not attending:
Cornelis Visser, chairman of NeSECC
Frank Merkle, teacher of the Perfusion School in Berlin and General Secretary of EBCP.

Minute from the meeting in Berlin
A little talk about the different translations of what it is we are applying for. A registration is voluntary, but a regulation is mandatory. The proper “name” is statutory regulation.

Since last meeting the perfusionists in Lithuania have got a regulation. Congratulation!

Application for statutory regulation in Sweden by Kerstin Björk
In January The Swedish Society of Perfusionists (SPF) got a member of the Swedish Parliament to ask an ”open question” about the importance of regulation for perfusionists to the Minister of Health and Social Affairs. The minister gave a very vague answer: “many different new groups in health services wishes to have a regulation”, “these are matters of great importance”.

Statutory regulation is not decisive for every group; they are still included in the rights and duties of all health personals. The question of regulation for new groups of professionals is under preparation, and the government is not prepared to precede this process.

In our (SPF) experience, the expression: “question under preparation” is the synonymous with “we do not wish to do anything about this”.

In September SPF had together with the same Member of Parliament written a proposal in this matter. He has presented the proposal to the Parliament. It will be discussed in Parliament in the spring. We consider it important to get as much publicity as possible in mass media to prepare for this.

Application for statutory regulation in Denmark by Pia Sprogøe
Third application was send April 8th to The Minister of Health and Prevention and this time including a recommendation from The Danish Society of Cardiothoracic Surgery.

Got a letter back July 8th telling that a letter to The National Board of Health for a statement. When I wrote and invited a representative to this meeting I was told that they had sent their statement, but not when or what they had answered. They had sent the invitation on to The Ministry of Health and Prevention.

A representative from The National Board of Health in Denmark
No reply from The Ministry of Health and Prevention.

UK-regulation by Robin Jones
First application got lost in post! Second application sent in 2003. In 6 years only one group have obtained regulation.

Things take time and the perfusionists may have to wait for the statutory regulation till 2011 due to:

  • Lack of Parliamentary time
  • Recent changes in healthcare regulation post (Shipman report)
  • Modernising Scientific Careers (MSC)
  • Lack of trust, breakdown in communication and half truths.

A Good Practice Guide has been published. See all that and all documents concerning regulation on the web-site: www.sopgbi.org

Next step in building a European Platform by Frank Merkle
From an e-mail from Frank:

I tried to make contact to the Italian EU politician, who according to Erminia Mascitelli, is in charge of the committee dealing with the EU Common Platform. However, I never received an answer to my messages, and I suppose he is either not the right person or not interested.

The process, as explained to us in Brussels last year, is a bit complicated. It requires that at least two thirds of the EU member states define their process of perfusion education. This does not necessarily mean that the education process is at the same level, but there need to be structures in place governing the access to the profession. For example, in some countries a previous nursing education is necessary, in others this is not the case. The national societies or other organizations in charge of overseeing perfusion education are the actors in this case.

Once such documentation for each member state is made up by the societies, this need to be supplemented with a document stating the need for establishing the Common Platform.

If there is no problem with EU-wide mobility of perfusionists, then a platform does not seem to be necessary. The EU Commission would want data on movement of perfusionists and on restrictions encountered. For example, if a perfusionist does not have a prior training as nurse, he/she can not work in Spain, since there is a legal requirement for this.

It would also require the societies to create an inventory/registry of perfusionists. This is already done for some but not all countries.

The action plan should involve the following steps:

  • Notification of all European Perfusion Organization of this process
  • Invitation to all Organizations to the next meeting (aim for high level representatives, such as presidents)
  • Creating a European Perfusionist Registry (each country separate)
  • Documentation of Perfusionist Education in each EU Member State

Making Contact-lists from the other European countries.Else will make a contact list and in the beginning of 2009 send invitations to the next meeting. All agreed that it will be a good idea to have one or two representatives from all European countries at the meeting.

Next annual meeting: time & place
In the future we will have the meeting on the second Friday in November. All agreed on having is at Hilton Hotel at Copenhagen Airport. So the same time and place.

So see you all Friday the 14th of November 2009.

Keeper of minute:
Pia Sprogøe, ECCP
Secretary of SCANSECT

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

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